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  Chapter 31 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  chapter 31. murder suicide and death at the big house.

  the people at bethel were killing us spiritually and sometimes they killed us physically too.. many of the old timers were in the infirmary laying there just waiting to die of natural causes.

  some had served there for over fifty years.

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  Half banana

  Bethel otherwise known as the JW headquarters is the actualization of "theocratic" living.

  By your description new boy, and there is no reason to doubt it, it is a dystopia; the depressing realization of utopian dreams.
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  My Mothers Ultimate Rejection

  by What Now? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i went into my mother's office to leave her a small note to say that we love and miss her and would love to get together.

  i found this on her desk.

  this is jehovah's witnesses.

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  Half banana

  What Now? so sorry to hear of your mother's heartless rejection of you. It is so inhuman, so lacking in the natural feeling for family ties that it has to be the mark of a deranged cult at work.

  It's no real help to attempt to put the situation of you and your mother into words but be sure that you have friends here who at the very least do understand how tough it is for you.
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  Another lie. This time from the UK Branch

  by alanv in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  andrew schofield, a spokesman for jehovah’s witnesses in britain, states: “for almost 60 years, our administrative operations for britain have been located in london.

  however, larger facilities became necessary due to the increased demand for bible-related literature and materials.

  we began site preparation on the 34-hectare (approx.

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  Half banana

  The Watchtower organization has been proudly disseminating fake news for the whole one hundred and thirty eight years of its existence.

  You cannot trust one word of what they have ever printed or spoken, everything has been either misleading or plain wrong. Surely there must be a prize somewhere for a record like this?
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  If we could ask the Disciplines today this one question.

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  imagine if we had an opportunity today to ask any of the faithful disciples this question.. who resurrected jesus?.

  what would their response be... if they still remembered what jesus said in john 2:19-22.

  19 jesus replied to them: “tear down this temple, and in three days i will raise it up.”+ 20 the jews then said: “this temple was built in 46 years, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 but he was talking about the temple of his body.+ 22 when, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples recalled that he used to say this,+ and they believed the scripture and what jesus had spoken.. .

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  Half banana

  To discuss Bible doctrine gets you absolutely nowhere. It is impossible to arrive at a comprehensive understanding of it because the Bible is not a coherent set of texts, they were never written with the intention of becoming "The Holy Bible". It is an anthology, a careful selection modified to support a political ideal. Nothing fits properly unless you happen to know what was meant at the time of writing and the contemporary cultural milieu. The Bible is not divine, it was written and compiled for humans by humans.

  However, the partisan writer of the text in question at John 2; 21,22 clearly had in mind a universal trope of pagan tales that demigod heroes died for three days and came back to life. (Ulysses did in the Odyssey)

  The idea is drawn from the astronomical relevance of the "death of the Sun" December 21st when the point of sunset stops travelling south along the western horizon and "comes back to life" by starting to travel north three and a half days later at sunrise in the east on the 25th December. Three and a half days crops up a lot in the Bible as a signal of special meaning to "those in the know".

  Nobody could have possibly remembered Jesus' words verbatim which became part of the the book of John. The words instead are the work of the promoters of the Jesus cult, who were in competition with other Christ cults all striving for market dominance in the first three centuries of the common era.

  The readers back in the time they were written would have been led to understand that the cultural motif implied their man Jesus was no ordinary punter. Three days dead and a trip back to life makes you a God like the Sun God and his father. Such is the stuff of myth and mind bending propaganda.
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  Today is my two year shuniversary

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  glad it isn't the 1200's...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbtad2c08xu3-25-89 to 9-10-15.. today is my two year shuniversary since they executed me for apostasy..

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  At least you were not burnt at the stake like they used to do....... And I agree Voltaire's Candide makes for a hilarious stage production (English National Opera was fantastic) as is the original book. He mocked the "spiritual advisers" mercilessly.

  If only the GB saw how futile their efforts are as the Lord's appointed "spiritual advisers". They demand total obedience but completely mislead the flock and have done so since the Watchtower began. They would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

  Hope you are adjusting to the real world Kairos.
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  What really should be the role of Women in the congregations?

  by Old Navy in

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  2. beliefs

  the presumably "biblical" practice of limiting the way women participate in congregational matters of the wtborg cult inc. (as well as certain other sects of christendom) may be a gross mis-interpretation of what paul meant.

  i'm inclined to agree completely with this account of what paul really meant.. thoughts anyone?

  aren't women more deserving of greater participation and respect?.

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  Half banana

  I think that Old Navy is hinting that there should be an improved status for women in JW congregations.

  The best thing for women is the same as for men; get as far away as possible from crackpot, mind controlling religions with out-dated gender roles and get a sound secular education. At least then you can then base your life on factual things not Bible mumbo jumbo.
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  How much do you think the internet has hurt JW growth?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the internet is what helped bring me and so many others out of this evil organization or at least confirmed our doubts.

  i have to say, i have seen quite a few youtube videos recently of ex jw's secretly recording their interactions inside of different congregations, halls, etc and see how empty the halls are!

  so many people comment on how the attendance is so low, far more emptier than when i was in 6 years ago, even on a weekday meeting.

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  Half banana

  I had an elderly but hearty couple call at my door a year or so back. The woman had been a JW since the 1930s, a real trooper.

  I explained to them what I had learned about their religion including the UN fiasco. The woman asked where the information came from and I told her the internet.

  "The internet!" she scoffed and shook her head and nearly spat her dentures out, she was as cross as a cross thing could possibly be!

  Long live internet freedom of information!
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  The "circle" of the earth

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.

  this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.

  from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.

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  Half banana

  The old Hebrew for "ball" sounds like "dur". The only Biblical example supported by the context of the ball being thrown, is at Isaiah 22;18. This word like most words in most languages has extended meanings including "encirclement."

  Isaiah was written in the middle Iron Age after 700 BCE.The true perception of astronomical bodies was unknown at that time.

  Pythagoras was credited with speculating on the matter of spherical heavenly bodies about a century and a half later but the reality was understood and proved by the Greeks in the third century BCE. I think-- but can't prove it yet that the Babylonians and probably others, possibly the Persians had cracked the problem before 400 BCE.

  I have to say I always thought that if there was a God he would have been able to know a thing before humans got the hang of it! But no, the Bible is a human text.
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  JW critically injured after being electrocuted in assembly hall

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a newspaper reports that in bornem, belgium, a jw volunteer was critically injured after being electrocuted:.

  bornem - a man was electrocuted while performing maintenance on a high voltage installation in the assembly hall of jw in bornem friday afternoon.

  the man was critically injured.. possibly the man, who is a volunteer with the jw, tried to clean the installation with a vacuum cleaner.

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  Half banana

  Tragic for the man involved but I do know of a rich religion that will not be rushing to give him financial assistance.
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  Prayers ,are they answered ? or is it just self delusion ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after 33 years as a jw and leaving 25 years ago i think prayer can be summed up with the jews praying at the wailing wall.. all they are doing is talking to a brick wall ,and getting no feed back.

  and they expect an answer to their prayers ?!.

  christians /other beliefs might find that funny but they are no better off.. prayer is always a one way street you talk either vocally or mentally to god however you never get the same back .. if god " so loved the world that he doesnt want any to be destroyed but have everlasting life " then whats the problem with him audibly answering his servants prayers ?

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  Half banana

  Talking to a wall, who are you kidding Smiddy?

  Jehovah always answers each and every prayer, but he consults Santa Claus and the tooth fairy first.